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Post by Chibi Jen on Nov 25, 2004 12:30:08 GMT 10
It is traditional for Japanese people to add words at the end of names; such as "san" "chan" "kun" "sama" to show the relationship of the characters. We also see it in Inuyasha.
Kagome calls Sango, 'Sango-chan' and vice versa.
Miroku calls Kagome, 'Kagome-sama"
Whereas Sango calls Miroku, "Houshi -sama"
What I find fascinating about the characters is that practically everyone calls Inuyasha, simply "Inuyasha" or like Myogua calls him "Inuyasha sama".. On the other hand, Kikyou in Movie 2, calls him "Inuyasha-kun".. ^^ Does that just show that he is very close to her?
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Post by Sakura on Nov 25, 2004 14:27:31 GMT 10
Well, with adding "kun" or "chan" or even "san" it means that you are pretty close to the person to be 'allowed' to say it. At least that's what my japanese teacher told us. ^_^" So, what does Inuyasha call Kagome then?
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Post by jdeyke on Nov 26, 2004 5:38:35 GMT 10
It is my understanding that when you first meet someone, they are generally "-san", while closer aquaintances may drop the suffix. "-kun" is used with people of equal rank or lower (the counterpart to "-senpai", which is used for one's elders/superiors at school/work), while "-chan" is a used mostly for children, among female groups of friends, or as a term of great affection (ie lovers) (approximately equivalent to the German "-chen" suffix. A sort of diminutive form of the name). "-sama" translates, very approximately, to lord or lady, and is a term of great respect used towards ones' superiors. There are more suffixes, but I think these are the most common. If any of this is known to be incorrect, please let me know... So, what does Inuyasha call Kagome then? Just plain Kagome. |
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Post by Chibi Jen on Nov 26, 2004 17:50:36 GMT 10
Wait- do you mean if they don't have any of that, they're closer? How does that fit in Inuyasha's context?
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Post by Sakura on Nov 26, 2004 23:22:36 GMT 10
If they don't have a suffix behind the name, it usually means that they have permission to address the person in a very intimate way. But, in Inuyasha's way, "kun" is used to express familiarity. er...at least that's what one of my books says. lol
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Post by Death Soldier on Nov 27, 2004 14:56:12 GMT 10
It sounds a little confusing now...because initally, I thought that "-kun" was generally used for guys around the same age and "-san" was used for both male (a lot older than you or not that close) and female (not very close), just a general term.
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I didn't know it was less polite.
I was told that "-kun" was used generally for guys and depending on using it before the "name" or surname" made the difference. Using it after the boy's name shows their cloer relationship. For example, in Cardcaptor Sakura, the relationship between Sakura and Shaoran is visible between the different movies. In movie 1, Sakura refers to him as "Li-kun", in Movie 2, it changes to "Shaoran-kun".
One thing is for sure, calling someone by their first name shows they are more closer.
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Post by jdeyke on Nov 29, 2004 0:51:45 GMT 10
Wait- do you mean if they don't have any of that, they're closer? How does that fit in Inuyasha's context? Well, Inuyasha (who isn't exactly known for being very polite/formal) doesn't use any suffix, while the more polite people use them. Required politeness decreases with people one's closer to. |
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Post by Chibi Jen on Dec 14, 2004 13:14:13 GMT 10
Why did kagome call Kouga, "Kouga kun"??  It made Inuyasha so jealous! Is that showing she's close to Kouga? She calls Miroku, "Miroku sama" which acts as a distancing tool... y Kouga?  |
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Post by Sakura on Dec 15, 2004 13:03:44 GMT 10
Why did kagome call Kouga, "Kouga kun"?? It made Inuyasha so jealous! Is that showing she's close to Kouga? She calls Miroku, "Miroku sama" which acts as a distancing tool... y Kouga? maybe...it's because she knows Kouga likes her..? I don't know...that's kinda odd, I guess I'd have to admit.. |
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Post by jdeyke on Dec 16, 2004 7:21:47 GMT 10
Why did kagome call Kouga, "Kouga kun"?? It made Inuyasha so jealous! Is that showing she's close to Kouga? She calls Miroku, "Miroku sama" which acts as a distancing tool... y Kouga? I don't think that was because of the -kun at all, but just because she was talking about/with him at all...  |
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Post by Chibi Jen on Dec 16, 2004 7:43:18 GMT 10
I don't think that was because of the -kun at all, but just because she was talking about/with him at all... But when she called out "Kouga-kun" Inuyasha gave a really weird facial expression and said "Kouga-kun??" So I think the -kun did trigger his anger. |
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Post by marcoPolo on Apr 1, 2005 14:38:58 GMT 10
Actually, if you use 'kun', it means you're not very close to the other person :-). But that's just how Kikyo is I guess, never letting others get close.
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Post by Sakura on Apr 8, 2005 6:44:47 GMT 10
Actually, if you use 'kun', it means you're not very close to the other person :-). But that's just how Kikyo is I guess, never letting others get close. Where do you get your information? XD According to my 'handy dandy book'...  the suffix -kun is used at the end of boys names to express familiarity or endearment. It is also sometimes used by men among friends, or when addresssing someone younger or of a lower station. Therefore, when Kagome said Kouga-kun, it may have meant that Kagome liked Kouga, or it could mean nothing. haha....i think I just rambled...and I remember typing this up...though, I don't see it. >.<" ...oh wellz |
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Post by Chibi Jen on Apr 14, 2005 19:47:26 GMT 10
Actually, if you use 'kun', it means you're not very close to the other person :-). But that's just how Kikyo is I guess, never letting others get close. I dont think that's right... considering in CCS Sakura calls 'Syaoron-kun'..and it makes more sense the other way around since she has grown a lot closer to him, than calling him "Li-kun" (referring to his surname) near the beginning |
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Post by Blox on Apr 15, 2005 20:05:50 GMT 10
Yeah that's right kun is usually restricted to boys but is a causual adressment so its meant to be used by friends. When used on a girl its ususally when their buddy buddy friends with no romantic interest or from a senior.
Also adressing people by their first names is a no-no unless you're very close to them.
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<--Thanks ChibiJen!!
It made Inuyasha so jealous! Is that showing she's close to Kouga? She calls Miroku, "Miroku sama" which acts as a distancing tool... y Kouga? 
the suffix -kun is used at the end of boys names to express familiarity or endearment. It is also sometimes used by men among friends, or when addresssing someone younger or of a lower station. Therefore, when Kagome said Kouga-kun, it may have meant that Kagome liked Kouga, or it could mean nothing. haha....i think I just rambled...and I remember typing this up...though, I don't see it. >.<" ...oh wellz
